John Lloyd Jones - Life Story
b. 1857 - Christened, 22nd, November, 1857. - d. Dec qtr 1932 Manchester S. Aged 75) ?
Photograph taken, 16th May, 1930. Aged 72 (Colour Ai)
First his parents and three siblings born before him
John Jones, (Bachelor).
Job: Gadener.
Address: St David's Church, Liverpool, Lancaster.
Married: Catherine Lloyd, (Spinster).
Address: Soho Street, Liverpool.
On: Monday, 12th May, 1851.
At: St David's Church, Liverpool, Lancaster.
Fathers: Thomas Jones, Gardener and Thomas Lloyd, Porter.
Rector: W Hughes.
In the presence of: Ellen Jones and Samuel Lloyd.The Original St. David's Church was a historic Welsh Anglican church on Brownlow Hill, Liverpool. (Founded in 1827 as the first church in England for Church of England services in Welsh, it closed in 1910, and was then demolished) featured a classical stone facade with arched doorways and a distinctive small central cupola bell tower.
Makes sense as I am sure John Jones & Catherine Lloyd as Welsh born would have been drawn there.
Birth of there Son Thomas Lloyd Jones - b. May 1852 (Llanbedr, Denbighshire.) - d. 6th September 1854 (aged 2)
Baptism:
At: St. Peter's Church, Llanbedr, Denbighshire.
On: 16th May, 1852.
Thomas Lloyd Jones (Son of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Y Foyer, Llanbedr, Denbighshire.
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Edward Thelwall
Y Foyer usually means a Lodge or Entrance Cottage. Llanbedr Hall was probably the place he worked. This photo may well have been the cottage that the family lived in.
Thomas Lloyd Jones died 6th September, 1854.
Aged 2, at Cloverley Gardens, Prees, Shropshire.This is his grave stone at Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
Also on it is his sister, (Lizzie) Elizabeth Jane Jones, who died January 1868 (aged 10)
Birth of there Daughter Sarah Anne Jones - b. December 1853 (Llanbedr, Denbighshire.)
Baptism:
At: St. Peter's Church, Llanbedr, Denbighshire.
On: 11th December, 1853
Sarah Anne Jones (Daughter of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Y Foyer, Llanbedr, Denbighshire.
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Edward ThelwallJohn was probably working at Llanbedr Hall, for the widow of Joseph Ablett; Ann Ablett who died in 1854. The family then would have moved to Cloverley Gardens, at Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
A Trusted Position : In the 1850s, a head or senior estate gardener was a highly respected role. John was responsible for a massive financial asset—the heated greenhouses, expensive exotic plants, fruit orchards, and formal terraces. Living at Y Foyer meant he and Catherine were the "gatekeepers" stationed right at the threshold where the public road met the private mansion grounds.
Llanbedr Hall - Drawn & Lithographed by I. Shaw
More about Sarah Anne Jones
Age 19 - Sarah Anne Jones, Married: George Wilde Dodwell - 3rd December, 1872. At Market Drayton, Shropshire.Their Children:
Age 20 - Birth of son William Dodwell (1873–1956) 26th September 1873. Market Drayton, Shropshire.
Age 21 - Birth of son Harry John Dodwell (1874–1956) 12th December, 1874.
Age 23 - Birth of daughter Florence Wilde Dodwell (1876–) January 1876. Whitchurch, Shropshire.
Age 24 - Birth of daughter Agnes Ann Dodwell (1877–) 9th May, 1877. Shrewsbury, Shropshire.
Age 25 - Sarah Anne Jones Death September 1878. Shropshire.
Birth of there Daughter Katherine Lloyd Jones - 1856 (Prees, Shropshire) - 11th October, 1939. Shropshire.
Baptism:
At: Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
On: 19th August, 1885.
Katherine Jones (Daughter of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Cloverley Gardens
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Edward Mainwaring
Birth of son
John Lloyd Jones - Life Story Begins
John Lloyd Jones - b. November 1857 (Oswestry, Shropshire) *My great grandfather.
Baptism:
At: Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
On: 22nd November, 1857.
John Lloyd Jones (Son of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Cloverley Gardens
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Edward Mainwaring
[Age 2] Birth of Sister Elizabeth Jane Jones - b. 1859 (Prees, Shropshire) - d. January 1868 (aged 10)
Baptism:
At: Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
On: 17th July, 1859.
Elizabeth Jane Jones (Daughter of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Cloverley Gardens
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Edward MainwaringThis is her grave stone at Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
With first her brother, Thomas Lloyd Jones, died 6th September, 1854.
Aged 2, at Cloverley Gardens, Prees, Shropshire.Also on it is his sister, (Lizzie) Elizabeth Jane Jones, who died January 1868 (aged 10)
Photo: Taken by me August 2005.
[Age 4] Birth of Brother Thomas Arthur Jones - b. January 1861 (Prees, Shropshire) - d. 5th January, 1900 (Cloverley Gardens, Prees, Shropshire)
Baptism:
At: Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
On: 22nd January, 1861.
Thomas Arthur Jones (Son of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Cloverley Gardens
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Edward Mainwaring
Thomas Arthur Jones
Died: 5th January, 1900.
Aged: 38
Gravestone has his parents John and Catherine on it too.
Photo: Taken by me August 2005.
[Age 6] Birth of Sister Alice Jones - b. January 1863 (Corra, Shropshire) - d. 1925 The Wirral, Cheshire.
Baptism:
At: Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
On: 18th January, 1863.
Alice Jones (Daughter of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Cloverley Gardens
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Edward MainwaringPhoto has the Old Jack Inn on the left. I would imagine John Jones and his sons would have used this during their lives at Cloverley Gardens.
More about Alice Maria Jones
Charles Henry Gatensbury, 27 years old, Bachelor.
Job: Inn Keeper
Address: Knighton, Market Drayton.
Married: Alice Maria Jones, 26 years old, Spinster.
Address: 71 Dorothy Street.
On: Monday, 16th June, 1890.
At: St Davids Church, Liverpool, Lancashire.
Fathers: Charles Gatensbury, Farmer and John Jones, Gardener.
Rector: Rev. James Davies
In the presence of: Arthur Thomas Jones (brides brother) and Mary Jane CroughtonTheir Children:
1911 Census
Charles Gatensbury (Junior)
Age: 18.
Occupation: Farmers son, working on farm.
Born: Market Drayton, Shropshire.Kate Gatensbury (Daughter)
Age: 16.
Occupation: Farmers daughter, at home.
Born: Market Drayton, Shropshire.Harry Gatensbury (Son)
Age: 14. (Just left school)
Born: Market Drayton, Shropshire.Magda Gatensbury (Daughter)
Age: 11. (At School)
Born: Market Drayton, Shropshire.
The Original St. David's Church was a historic Welsh Anglican church on Brownlow Hill, Liverpool. (Founded in 1827 as the first church in England for Church of England services in Welsh, it closed in 1910, and was then demolished) featured a classical stone facade with arched doorways and a distinctive small central cupola bell tower.
Alices father and mother, John Jones & Catherine Lloyd married at this church too.
[Age 8] Birth of Brother William Edwin Jones - b. 1865 (Corra, Shropshire)
Baptism:
At: Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
On: 5th March, 1865.
William Edwin Jones (Son of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Cloverley Gardens
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Alexander Woodward
The black and white aerial photo is of the farm at Cloverley Hall Estate. You can see the old greenhouses of Cloverley Gardens (bottom right). The house the Jones family lived in is just out of sight, at the bottom of the photo.Many thanks to the owners of both places, who kindly allowed me to take digital photos of their original aerial photos.
More about William Edwin Jones
William Edwin Jones, Married: Elizabeth Speed - 30th December, 1886. At Whitchurch, Shropshire.Their Children:
Edith Gladys Jones b. 1888 - Whitchurch, Shropshire.
Francis Percy Jones b. 1891 - Whitchurch, Shropshire.
Francis Henry Jones b. 1892 - Whitchurch, Shropshire.
Reginald Edwin Jones b. 1897 - Whitchurch, Shropshire.
[Age 10] Birth of Brother Watkin Jones - b. March 1867 (Corra, Shropshire)
[Age 10] Birth of Brother Mark Jones - b. March 1867 (Corra, Shropshire)
Baptism:
At: Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
On: 11th March, 1866.
Watkin & Mark Jones (Twin Son's of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Cloverley Gardens
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Alexander Woodward (Curate)Cloverley Gardens where John & Catherine Jones and their family all lived.
More about Watkin Jones
Watkin Jones, Married: Helen Mackintosh (of Glen Urquart, Inverness)Their Children:
Watkin Wynn Mackintosh Jones (1896 - 1988) b. Market Drayton, Shropshire.
Dorothea Helen Jones (1899 - 1921) b. Market Drayton, Shropshire.In 1911 the family were living at Sandrock House, Tickhill, Yorkshire.
Dorothea Helen Jones, daughter of the head gardener at Sandrock House, won a prize for the essay she wrote on ‘Kindness to animals’ awarded by the Doncaster Branch of the RSPCA. She later moved to Hull with her family where her father was employed as head gardener at Cottingham Grange and her older brother Wynn was a bank clerk. Dorothea became a shorthand typist for a Hull estate agent but at the time of the 1921 census was recorded as out of work. A physical and mental health crisis led to her admission to Hull City Asylum where, aged 22, she died on 16 th July, 1921 as a result of ‘acute mania’ (said to be of three weeks duration) and a lung infection. She was buried in Doncaster at Hyde Park Cemetery.
[Age 11] Birth of Sister Agnes Henrietta Jones - b. May 1868 (Corra, Shropshire)
Baptism:
At: Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
On: 31st May, 1868.
Agnes Henrietta Jones (Daughter of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Cloverley Gardens
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Alexander Woodward (Curate)This aerial view shows how the house they all lived in was situated to the farm, on the Cloverley Hall Estate.
I visited here with my cousins Julia and Jennifer Ganderton.
August 2005.Many thanks to the owners of both places, who kindly allowed me to take digital photos of their original aerial photos.
More about Agnes Henrietta Jones
William Smith, 24 years old, Bachelor.
Job: Grocer.
Address: 14 Shropshire Street, Market Drayton, Shropshire.
Married: Agness Henrietta Jones, 29 years old, Spinster.
Address: Grange House Gardens, Levenshulme, Lancashire.
On: 18th February, 1898.
At: St Peter's Church, Levenshulme, Lancashire.
Fathers: John Smith, Hotel Keeper and John Jones, Forester.
Rector: Rev. Henry Hickling
In the presence of: Andrew Rowland Jones, and Marian Jane Jones.Their Children:
Nellie Smith b. 1899
Louie Smith b. 1903
Marjorie Mary Smith b. 1907
Katherine Agnes Gwenneth Smith b. 1908
Madeline Smith b. 1909
in the 1911 Census they are living at the Elephant & Castle, Dawley, Telford. William is the Hotel Keeper and Agness is assisting in the business. All there children were born at Dawley.
In the 1921 Census they are living at 188 Abbey Foregate, Shrewsbury. Williams profession is then Grocer, but he is out of work. They do have 4 Boarders living there, so perhaps this is how they supplemented their income.
[Age 13] Birth of Brother Andrew Rowland Jones - b. 1870 (Corra, Shropshire)
Baptism:
At: Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
On: 12th December, 1869.
Andrew Rowland Jones (Son of)
Parents: John & Catherine Jones
Address: Cloverley Gardens
Father's Profession: Gardener
Vicar: Rev. Henry Raymond SmythiesCloverley Hall Estate was where Andrew's father John Jones was Head Gardener.
More about Andrew Rowland Jones
Andrew Rowland Jones, 24 years old, Bachelor.
Job: Gardener.
Address: 46 Abbott Road, Bromley, London.
Married: Marian Jane Sparkes, 22 years old, Spinster.
Address: 4 Brunswick Road, Bromley, London.
On: 6th August, 1894.
At: All Hallows, East India Docks, Bromley, London.
(Changed to St. Michael & All Angels)
Fathers: John Jones, Gardener and Esau Sparkes, Gardener
Curate: Rev. James Charles Wilkinson
In the presence of: Joseph Sparkes and Althea SparkesTheir Children:
Andrew Jones b. 1895 - Swanley Kent.
George Jones b. 1897 - Iriam, Lancashire.
Nora Marian Jones b. 1908 - Broughton, Lancashire.
Norman Rowland Jones b. 1911 - Broughton, Lancashire.
St. Michael & All Angels
[Age 18] Married Harriett Ellison (but on marriage certificate he puts he is 21 years old)
John Lloyd Jones, 21 years old, Bachelor.
Job: Gardener.
Address: The Swan Inn, Burnley, Lancashire.
Married: Harriett Ellison, 25 years old, Spinster.
Address: The Swan Inn, Burnley, Lancashire
On: Monday, 20th December, 1875.
At: St Peter's Church, Burnley, Lancashire.
Fathers: John Jones, Gardener and William Ellison, BookKeeper.
Rector: C. Marriott.
In the presence of: Arthur Parkinson and Annie Ellis.
Photo of the Swan Inn, Burnley.
Taken by me in September 2016.
Photo of St Peter's Church, Burnley, Lancashire.
Taken by me in September 2016.St Peter's Church is an active Anglican parish church located on Church Street in the historic town centre of Burnley, Lancashire. As Burnley's oldest and most significant place of worship, the building is thought to have originated between the 8th century and 1122, and celebrated its 900th anniversary in 2022. It is a Grade II listed building managed within the Diocese of Blackburn.
[Age 20] Birth of Son John William Jones
b. 19th September, 1877. (Congleton, Cheshire) - d. 9th December, 1956. (aged, 79) (Haywood Cottage, Ankerdine Hill, Knightwick, Worcestershire)
(John William Jones was my grandfather)
Baptism: 23rd December, 1877.
John William Jones
At: Spittlegate, Grantham, Lincolnshire.
Parents: John Lloyd & Harriet Jones
Father's Profession: Gardener
Address: 56 Commercial Road, Congleton.
Vicar: Rev. Frederick Jesson.
St. John the Evangelist in Spittlegate, Grantham.
(Painting circa 1853)The name is believed to derive from the Middle English Spitel, and the Viking word 'gata' for "Hospital Gate" after the hospital for lepers believed to have been in the area from the
13th-15th Centuries.
[Age 23] Birth of Daughter Annie Elizabeth Jones (b. 12th April, 1880)
b. 12th April, 1880. (The Mount, Congleton, Cheshire) - d. Jan qtr. 1960. (aged, 79) (De Courcel Road, Brighton, Sussex).
Baptism: 23rd May, 1880.
Annie Elizabeth Jones
At: St. James, Congleton, Cheshire.
Parents: John Lloyd & Harriet Jones
Father's Profession: Gardener
Address: The Mount, Congleton, Cheshire.
Vicar: Rev. George Arthur Ellison KempsonThe grounds of The Mount contained several ornate greenhouses, (This I am sure would have been one of the main jobs my great grandfather would have been involved in; and plants for the grounds would have been cultured in them) tennis courts and a moat.
[Age 30] Birth of Daughter Fanny May Jones
b. 1st May, 1887. (New Street, Whitchurch, Salop) - d. 17th October, 1947. (aged, 60) (5 Hanbury Wharf, Hanbury, Droitwich, Worcestershire).
Baptism: 3rd June, 1887.
Fanny May Jones
At: St. Alkmund's Church, Whitchurch, Shropshire.
Parents: John Lloyd & Harriet Jones
Father's Profession: Gardener
Address: New Street, Whitchurch, Shropshire.
Vicar: Rev. Henry Howard AdamsonInside St. Alkmund's Church
Photo taken on my visit to Whitchurch in August 2005.St. Alkmund’s Church in Whitchurch, Shropshire, is a majestic, Grade I listed Anglican parish church standing at the top of the High Street. Built between 1712 and 1713, it is famous for being Shropshire’s first grand church designed in the elegant Neoclassical (Queen Anne) architectural style.
This is where my great aunt, Fanny May was Baptised.One of her daaughters was Mabel Hayward, who married Sydney Ganderton. Two of their children were Julia & Roger, my cousins who I went to school with, and they have been friends all my life.
Age [43] son John William Jones - Marriage
John William Jones, 23 years old, Bachelor.
Job: Butcher.
Address: Parish of St John the Baptist, Gloucester.
Married: Lucy Grubham, 25 years old, Spinster.
Address: Doddenham.
On: Tuesday, 25th December, 1900
At: Knightwick Church, Worcestershire.
Fathers: John Lloyd Jones, Gardener and Philip Grubham, Parish Clerk.
Rector: Joseph Bowstead Wilson.
In the presence of: Philip Grubham and Esther Elizabeth Grubham. (The Bride's father and sister).Photo on right of my grandparents John & Lucy Jones
Their Children:-
Francis Cuthbert Jones - b. 13th November, 1901. (Cardiff, Wales) - d. 1977 (Worcester).
Reginald Lloyd Jones - b. 12th April 1904. (23. Carter Villas, Bozward Street, Worcester) - d. 1970 (Birmingham).
Philip Rowland Jones - b. 14th November, 1905. (1 Arundel Street, Vernon Park, Worcester) - d. 5th March, 1981. (Lynton, Grange Lane, Rushwick, Worcestershire).Doris Eliza Jones - b. 14th May, 1909. (63. Rowley Hill Street, Worcester.) - d. 27th November, 1974. (Post Office, Knightwick, Worcestershire).
In photo (Colour Ai) standing left to right: Roly, Reg and Frank
Sitting: John, Doris and Lucy
In the garden at Knightwick Post Office.
[Age 45] Death of father, John Jones
Born: 13th July, 1829.
Died: 26th March, 1902. Cloverley Gardens.
Aged: 73[Age 60] Death of mother, Catherine (Lloyd) Jones
Born: 1873.
Died: 20th June, 1917.
Aged: 90Gravestone at, Holy Trinity Church, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire.
Gravestone has his their third son on it too.
Thomas Arthur Jones
Died: 5th January, 1900. Cloverley Gardens.
Aged: 38
Photo: Taken by me August 2005.Kelly's Directory: On it can be seen "John Jones, head gardener to Arthur Pemberton Hewood-Lonsdale esq." From the census forms I knew he was a gardener and lived at Cloverley Gardens. The grave stone we found at Calverhall Church actually says that this is where he was living too. The information from the Kelly's Directory backs this up and shows that he was working on the Cloverley Estate.
I wondered if his boss A. P. Heywood-Lonsdale helped pay for this granite head stone. If not my great-great grandfather was obviously very well off to have afforded such an impressive grave stone. Most others in the church yard being of heavy grey slate stone.
[Age 50] daughter Annie Elizabeth Jones - Marriage.
Rowland Wilkinson, 27 years old, Bachelor.
Address: 201 Rustlings Road, Sheffield.
Married: Annie Elizabeth Jones, 26 years old, Spinster.
Address: 201 Rustlings Road, Sheffield.
On: 1st August, 1907.
At: The Registry Office, Ecclesall, Bierlow, Sheffield
Fathers:Thomas Wilkinson, of Independent Means and John Lloyd Jones, Seedsman.
Register Office:
William Henry Bennett, Registrar.
Joseph A. E. Beard, Supt. Registrar.
In the presence of: Mary Foxcroft and Rachel Swallow.Photo: Rowland & Winnie Wilkinson my great uncle & aunt
Their Children:-
In the 1901 census for John Lloyd Jones it says Nora Jones, (Daughter) aged 1year 8month, born Grantham, Lincolnshire.
In the 1911 census for Rowland Wilkinson it says Norah Ellison Wilkinson (Stepdaughter) aged 10, born Grantham, Lincolnshire.My assumption is that my aunt Winnie had a daughter out of wedlock and that my grandparents John Lloyd & Harriett Jones said it was theirs to avoid any shame for their daughter. Because it says Stepdaughter it can not have been Rowland's child. There were no children in their marriage.
[Age 51] daughter Fanny May Jones - Marriage.
Thursday, 13th February, 1908.
St John in Bedwardine Church, Worcester.
Charles Hayward, 38 years old Widower.
Address:21 Skinner Street, St. Johns, Worcester.
Job: General Dealer.
Married: Fanny May (Jones) Hayward, 22 years old Spinster.
Address: The Star Inn, Bransford Road, Worcester.
Fathers: (Charles' father's name not given) John Lloyd Jones, Gardener
In the presence of: William and Agnes Reeves.
Curate: Vivian C. Blyth.Photo: Fanny May and her daughter Norah Hayward
Charles & Fanny were my great uncle & aunt
Their Children:-
Norah Mary Hayward, b. Saturday, 17th December, 1910.
Lottie May Hayward, b. 1914 --- d. on the 9th March, 1918 at Malvern Hospital, from shock, the result of extensive burns, accidently sustained.
Mabel Lloyd Hayward, b. Tuesday, 10th April, 1917. --- d. 20th June, 2002. - age: 85 - 8 Hay Close, Home Meadow, Warndon Villages, Worcester.
Doris Winifred Hayward, b. Tuesday, 18th May, 1920. --- d. 1986. Buried: 24th April,1986 [aged 65] Pencombe Church [No. 197]
[Age 70] December 17th, 1927 - Letter to his grandaughter, Norah Hayward.Letter written by my great-great grandafther John Lloyd Jones to his grandaughter Norah Hayward.
69 Coke Street
Cheetham Hill
ManchesterDecember 17th, 1927.
My Dear Granddaughter [Norah Hayward]
I am sure you will think it very unkind of me not writing you for so long but do please excuse me and I will write you more often.
I am indeed pleased to know you are a good girl which proves it by your staying in your present situation such a nice time which shows that they value your services.
I hope your little sisters [Mabel and Doris Hayward] are in comfortable circumstance and well and happy also your Dear Mother who I should be so pleased to see and hope to be able to get over to your Uncle's [John William Jones] at Knightwick early this coming summer and then I can see you all.
Where is you mother [Fanny May Hayward] living at now I was so sorry to hear that her Home had been broken up and I do think it a shame for however humble it was still home and there is no place like home.
I can't say how very sorry I feel for you all.
Your auntie •Lizzie should have left her home alone.
My intention was to make a home for her but after promising to help me to get a business your auntie refused when I had got the chance of a first class Hotel and I was only short of £100 to walk in it was £300 to go in and I could find all the other and she would have been paid back long since for the House is a gold mine.
However I have nothing to thank her for and don't wish to see her again.
I had a severe illness last spring but pulled through with good nursing but left my chest weak I have to be careful.
Well my dear little girl I should love to see you also your other sisters and dear mother now give my fondest love to them and hope you and all will have a happy xmas and jolly and prosperous new year. I return love your ever affectionate Granddad J. Lloyd Jones.
Please remember me to all at Knightwick And I will write them soon and hope to see them.
Information:-
•Lizzie was Esther Elizabeth Grubham [She was married twice first to Nathaniel Flowers and after his death to Bawden Wootton]
•Lizzie was my grandmother Lucy (Grubham) Jones's sister and lived most of her life at the Laurels at the top of Ankerdine Hill, Knightwick. The Laurels was the ancestral home of my great grandparents Philip Grubham and his wife Eliza (Berry) Grubham.Norah's mother Fanny May (Jones) Hayward was John Lloyd Jones' daughter and her brother was my grandfather John William Jones, who was sub-postmaster at Knightwick Post Office.
Fanny May Hayward married George Joseph Petty on the 3rd December, 1928 the year after this letter was written.
Could John's letter refer to a break up in Norah's parents marriage! I do not know when her father Charles Hayward died, his last child Doris Winifred Hayward was born on the 18th May, 1920. In the 1921 census Charles Hayward was 66 years and 8 months old and when Fanny May married George Petty in 1928, she was a widower. So Charles died somewhere between 1921 and 1928. Perhaps the break up of the home referred to in this letter was because of his death and that with out his income perhaps they all finished up at Knightwick with my grandfather, John William Jones; Mabel and Doris definately lived there for many years.
When Fanny married George Petty, Norah lived with them.One of the photos I have of my great grandfather John Lloyd Jones, is of him sat outside his own pub, I have never found out where it was. The charabang outside this pub was registered in Manchester. Every where you read anything about his ocupation it is always gardener, or seedsman or landscape gardener but never once does it say landlord, so frustratingly I only had the photo to prove he was once a landlord but now with this letter reffering to him wanting to buy a hotel it confirms that he did have an alliance in this area as an occupation.
John refers in his letter that he had had a severe illness and five years later, in the December qtr., 1932 in Manchester, he died aged 75.
[Age 72] 16th May, 1930 - John Lloyd Jones has his photo taken
[Age 75] John Lloyd Jones
Died: 1932, Manchester.
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