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John Lloyd Jones

This is my great-grandfather, John Lloyd Jones. It's quite wonderful to have this photograph of one of my great-grandparents.

I have photographs from the family and one of them shows the same gentleman with my grandfather, John William Jones, his son Francis Cuthbert Jones and his son, Gordon Philip Lloyd Jones. This photo was obviously taken to show the four generations. Then a further photograph showing a Public House with my great-grandfather sat proudly in the centre of a group of patrons, with a sign over the door saying 'John L. Jones, Licensed to sell Ale, Porter, Wines, Spirit and Tobacco'.

Through these photographs I can see that this one is of him.

As I have gained information, I have seen that he was a gardener, landscaper and though he may have had a Public House, I have still not traced its where about.

 

1871 Census: View original

Name

Title

Age

Occupation

Place of Birth

John Jones

Head

42

Gardener

Tremeirchion, Denbighshire, Wales

Catherine Jones

Wife

44

Bodfary, Flintshire, Wales

John Lloyd Jones

Son

14

Corra, Shropshire, England

Elizabeth Jones

Daughter

12

Corra, Shropshire, England

Arthur Jones

Son

10

Corra, Shropshire, England

Alice Jones

Daughter

8

Corra, Shropshire, England

Edwin Jones

Son

6

Corra, Shropshire, England

Mark Jones

Son

4

Corra, Shropshire, England

Watkin Jones

Son

4

Corra, Shropshire, England

Agnes Jones

Daughter

2

Corra, Shropshire, England

Andrew Jones

Son

1

Corra, Shropshire, England

Address: Cloverley Gardens, Corra, Calverhall, Prees, Shropshire View Cloverley Gardens

Calverhall Church was where John Lloyd Jones was baptised View Calverhall Church

 

1881 Census: View original

Name

Title

Age

Occupation

Place of Birth

John Jones

Head

51

Tremeirchion, Denbighshire, Wales

Catherine Jones

Wife

53

Bodfary, Flintshire, Wales

Katherine Lloyd Jones

Daughter

25

Prees, Shropshire, England

Thomas Arthur Jones

Son

20

Prees, Shropshire, England

Alice Maria Jones

Daughter

18

Prees, Shropshire, England

William Edwin Jones

Son

16

Prees, Shropshire, England

Watkin Jones

Son

14

Prees, Shropshire, England

Agnes Henriatta Jones

Daughter

13

Prees, Shropshire, England

Andrew Rowland Jones

Son

11

Prees, Shropshire, England

Address: Prees Shropshire

 

1875, Monday, 20th December, Marriage at Burnley parish Church, in the County of Lancaster. View Cert.

Name

Title

Age

Occupation

Place of Birth

John Lloyd Jones

Bachelor

21

Gardener

1881 census he should be 26-27 ?

Harriet Ellison

Spinster

25

1881 census she should be 30-31

John Jones

Father

Gardener

John and William used for son's name. (My Grandfather)

Willliam Ellison

Father

Bookkeeper

Address of Bride and Bridegroom given at time of marriage: Swan Inn

In the presence of: Arthur Parkinson and Annie Ellis

They named their daughter Annie

Vicar: C Marriott

1881 Census: Code 3534-153-3-1341846 View original

Name

Title

Age

Occupation

Place of Birth

John Lloyd Jones

Head

23

Gardener (Dom.+)

Whitchurch, Shropshire.

Harriet Jones

Wife

30

Grantham, Lincolnshire.

John William Jones

Son

3

Congleton, Cheshire.

Annie Elizabeth Jones

Daughter

11m

Congleton, Cheshire.

Address: Astbury, Congleton, Cheshire.

John William Jones, I also found births December quarter 1877 Congleton 8a-307. Annie called herself Winnie as she did not like her name and was known as Auntie Winnie.
John William Jones was baptised, in Spittlegate, Grantham, Lincolnshire, 1877. (b. 19th September 1877).
Annie Elizabeth Jones was baptised, at St James, Cogleton, Cheshire, 1880. (b. 12th April 1880).
Fanny May Jones was baptised, in Whitchurch, Shropshire, (Anglican) 1887. (See 1891 Census) (b. 1st May 1887).

This was the only John Lloyd Jones with a son John William Jones aged 3.
I know granddad married in 1900 when he was aged 23, which makes the year he was born, 1877 as above.

1891 Census: Code 3534-153-3-1341846 View original

Name

Title

Age

Occupation

Place of Birth

John Lloyd Jones

Head

33

Landscape Gardener

Salop, Whitchurch

Harriet Jones

Wife

40

Grantham, Lincolnshire.

John William Jones

Son

13

Congleton, Cheshire.

Annie Elizabeth Jones

Daughter

10

Congleton, Cheshire.

Fanny May Jones

Daughter

3

Salop, Whitchurch

Address: 7 Dodington Street, Whitchurch. View the house they lived in

 

1901 Census: RG13/2559 SHR140 Piece 2559 Folio 50 Page 19 Schedule No. 130 View original

Name

Title

Age

Occupation

Place of Birth

John ... Jones

Head

42

Gardener

*Prees, Shropshire.

Harriet Jones

Wife

49

Grantham, Lincolnshire.

May Jones

Daughter

13

Whitchurch, Shropshire.

Nora Jones

Daughter

1y 8m

Grantham, Lincolnshire.

Address: Stafford Street,*Market Drayton (Parish of St Mary) **Market Drayton is south east of Whitchurch. Oswestry is the main market town south west of Whitchurch, Shropshire. * Prees, Shropshire (Prees is 4 miles from Whitchurch)

John Jones and his wife Catherine Jones are both buried in Calverhall Churchyard, Shropshire. View Gravestone

On the original fiche I could not make out the letter in John's name but it may well be a capital L for Lloyd. What was on it was "seedsman, gardener, florist" (this wasn't on the electronic version) and that he had his own account, working from home. (Fact: He was a gardener-landscaper)

Fanny May Jones - (in the 1901 census they just used her second name).
Born: Whitchurch, Shropshire. June qtr., 1887, 6a 739.

Nora Jones. Born: circa 1898-99
Found a Nora Ellison Jones - 1899 - Grantham - 7a page 480.
Interesting is, either these two are the same person? but what ever, Norah Ellison is Annie Elizabeth Jones' daughter as in 1911 census Annie is married to Rowland Wilkinson and his stepdaughter is Norah Ellison Wilkinson aged 10? Now the funny thing is that in the 1901 census for her father John Lloyd Jones has a daughter Nora Jones aged 1 year and 8 months. Now either this was his daughter and she died (can not find anything regarding her death) or this was his grand daughter and they tried to hide the fact that it was his daughter Annie's child? Also if she did not have a husband it would make sense to name her after her mother and father's surnames i.e. Ellison Jones.

The information now shows that I have found my grandfather John William Jones, born in Congleton, my great-aunt, Annie Elizabeth Jones (Aunt Winnie), born in Congleton my great-aunt, Fanny May Jones, born in Whitchurch, another great-aunt?, Nora Ellison Jones, born in Grantham (this aunt we did not know) and their mother's name, Harriet (Ellison) Jones

Fanny May Jones was mother to Norah Mary Hayward, Mabel Lloyd Hayward and Doris Winifred Hayward. Mabel married Sidney Ralph Ganderton and their family has been close to ours for many years. You can use the following link to view the Ganderton Family Page

 

1901 Census: RG13/2431 Piece 2431 Folio 201 Page 35 Schedule No.213 View original

Name

Title

Age

Occupation

Place of Birth

John William Jones

Head

23

Prudential Assurance Agent

Congleton, Cheshire

Lucy (Grubham) Jones

Wife

25

Doddenham, Worcestershire

It was interesting to find this census of my grandparents as by the November of that year they were in Cardiff, where they had their first child, Francis Cuthbert Jones, Born: 13th November, 1901. and that Grandpa's given occupation then was Baker. After that he became a Journeyman Butcher and spent some time at Tippton in Dudley working for Marsh and Baxters. I think my grandmother wanted to be closer to her parents and after this they lived in Worcester, where they had three more children before moving to Knightwick and settling down at the Post Office.

William Salvage aged 40 and a Carpenter was a lodger at this address at the time of the census